
vs
Palmeiras vs LDU de Quito
Wed 9 Sept · 19:00Nubank Parque, São Paulo
In short
In short
- The call
- Palmeiras win, but narrowly. Two elite defences, a suspended playmaker and a visiting side happy to take 0-0 back to altitude.
- The one stat
- LDU have scored 0.92 goals per game across 13 competitive matches this season and cleared 2.5 goals in only three of them.
- The risk
- Palmeiras have gone 27 home Libertadores matches without defeat since 2021 and could bury a tired LDU early, blowing the under.
- Tips
- Safer: total goals under 2.5. Riskier: no goal in the first half. Five more leans on the board.
The situation
Eleven months ago these two produced the strangest tie of the 2025 Libertadores. LDU won the semi-final first leg 3-0 in Quito, then lost 4-0 in São Paulo and watched Palmeiras walk into the final. Both clubs have rebuilt since. LDU topped their group with 12 points from six matches (W4 D0 L2); Palmeiras finished second in theirs with 11 from six (W3 D2 L1) and a goal difference of five.
The route in was the same shape for both. Palmeiras drew 1-1 at home with Cerro Porteño and won 1-0 in Asunción. LDU drew 1-1 in Brazil and 0-0 at home with Mirassol before going through on penalties. Four knockout matches between them, five goals, three draws. Neither side scored more than once in any of them.
Palmeiras come in flat rather than wounded. Three straight draws — 0-0 at Botafogo, 0-0 at Santos, 1-1 at Mirassol — leave them unbeaten in six but without a goal in two of those three, and they land here on three days' rest after Sunday. LDU had four days and flew in on Monday with a full travelling squad. Abel Ferreira must also replace Andreas Pereira, banned for the red card he collected against Cerro Porteño.
The markets
Total goals
Under 2.5
LDU cleared 2.5 goals in only three of 13 competitive matches this season and neither side scored twice in any of the four knockout matches; Palmeiras averaged 1.32 xG across the ten with data.
EvidenceGoals tablexG trend
1st-half goals
Under 0.5
Palmeiras have been level at half-time in 67% of 15 matches and goalless at the break in four of their last five; LDU were level at half-time in 43% of their last seven away.
EvidenceGoals table
Result & goals
Match result
PalmeirasPrice 1.24
4/5Palmeiras have scored 1.86 and conceded 0.57 per game across their last seven at home and have not lost a home Libertadores match since 2021; LDU have scored 1.14 per game across their last seven away.
EvidenceGoals tablexG trendProbable XIs
Both teams to score
NoPrice 1.39
3/5LDU have failed to score in five of 13 competitive matches and both teams scored in neither of the two 2025 meetings; Palmeiras have eight clean sheets in 15.
EvidenceGoals tableHead-to-head
Asian handicap
LDU de Quito +1.75Price 1.73
3/5A one-goal margin covers this: Palmeiras have won by three or more in only four of 15 competitive matches this season, and LDU concede 0.86 per game away with a second leg at altitude to protect.
EvidenceGoals tableTeam news
Cards
Total cards
Under 5.5Price 1.83
3/5Palmeiras matches have produced 4.5 cards this season and LDU matches 4.2, both under the 5.03 league average, and Palmeiras themselves collect just 1.8 a game.
EvidenceRefereeDiscipline
Corners
Total corners
Over 10Price 1.85
3/5LDU matches have averaged 11.4 corners and gone over 9.5 in nine of the ten with data; Palmeiras matches sit at 10.0, and their Libertadores matches averaged 11.0 against LDU's 12.0.
EvidenceCorners
Confidence is the desk's conviction, 1–5; each evidence chip jumps to the chart or table behind the lean. Analyzed markets are part of the DeepPreviews membership — free to explore during early access. Prices are indicative market averages, not an offer.
Match sheet
- Kick-off
- 19:00 São Paulo time
- Wednesday
- Venue
- Nubank Parque, São Paulo
- Referee
- Jesús Valenzuela
- 4.93 yellows per game over 108 matches
- Weather
- 15-23 °C, showers likely
- Rest
- 3 days vs 4
- Palmeiras drew at Botafogo on Sunday
- Tie
- First leg
- Return in Quito on 16 September
Part one
Analysis
Why the goals are likely to be scarce, what a strict referee does to the card line, and why the corner count is the one number pointing upwards.
01Goals
Start with what LDU do to a scoreboard. Thirteen competitive matches this season, 12 goals, five blanks, three matches over 2.5 goals. Their two Libertadores ties against Mirassol finished 1-1 and 0-0. Away from Quito they are tighter still at the back — 0.86 conceded per game across their last seven on the road — and they have now gone two matches unbeaten.
Palmeiras are the better team and score more, 1.73 per game across 15 competitive matches, but the current version is stuck. Three consecutive draws, one goal in those three matches, and only four of 15 half-times spent ahead. At home they have been more direct: 1.86 scored and 0.57 conceded per game over their last seven there, unbeaten in five. The gap between those two Palmeiras is where this match sits.
Both defences are league-leading by this competition's standards. Palmeiras have kept eight clean sheets in 15; LDU five in 13. Against a league average of 2.13 goals per match and a 34% over-2.5 rate, a first leg between two sides whose four knockout matches produced five goals points one way.
LDU have scored 0.92 goals per game in 13 competitive matches this season and cleared 2.5 goals only three times.
Sample: This season, all competitions: 15 Palmeiras, 13 LDU; splits are last 7 at home and last 7 away
| Metric | PalmeirasHome | LDU de QuitoAway |
|---|---|---|
| Goals scored per game | 1.731.86 at home | 0.921.14 away |
| Goals conceded per game | 0.80.57 at home | 0.770.86 away |
| Both teams scored | 47%43% at home | 38%57% away |
| Over 2.5 goals | 53%57% at home | 23%29% away |
| Level at half-time | 67%86% at home | 46%43% away |
Bold marks the better figure in each row. Small numbers are the venue split: the home side at home, the away side away.
Palmeiras have not reached 1.8 xG once in the ten matches with data, averaging 1.32 created and 1.05 conceded.
Sample: This season's 10 competitive matches with xG published, all competitions
PalmeirasHome
avg xG 1.31 · avg xGA 1.05
1–0W
Chapecoense-sc (H)
1–3W
Coritiba (A)
1–2L
Atletico-MG (H)
0–4W
Vitoria (A)
0–0D
Internacional (H)
1–1D
Cerro Porteno (H)
3–2L
Fluminense (A)
0–1W
Cerro Porteno (A)
4–1W
Vasco DA Gama (H)
1–1D
Mirassol (A)
xG forxG againstOldest match on the left.
Two meetings, two routs, no away goal in either: 3.50 goals per meeting, and neither game had both teams scoring.
1
Palmeiras
0
Draws
1
LDU de Quito
31 Oct 2025·CONMEBOL Libertadores
Palmeiras4–0LDU de Quito24 Oct 2025·CONMEBOL Libertadores
LDU de Quito3–0Palmeiras
Home side listed first. Winner in bold.
What this supports
Full board ↑Total goals
Under 2.5Safer
Price 1.824/5Match result
Palmeiras
Price 1.244/5Both teams to score
No
Price 1.393/5Asian handicap
LDU de Quito +1.75
Price 1.733/51st-half goals
Under 0.5Bolder
Price 2.802/5
02Cards
Jesús Valenzuela is the strict end of the CONMEBOL list. Across 108 matches he averages 4.93 yellows and 0.36 penalties a game, ahead of this competition's 4.58 yellow average. He has taken charge of Palmeiras six times in CONMEBOL competition since 2020 without them losing, most recently the 2-1 quarter-final win over River Plate a year ago.
The teams themselves have not been fighting. Palmeiras matches this season have produced 4.5 cards, LDU matches 4.2, both under the 5.03 league average — and Palmeiras have collected only 1.8 of those per game themselves. LDU are the more punished side at 2.3. The referee pulls the number up; the sides pull it down.
Valenzuela averages 4.93 yellows and 0.36 penalties per game over 108 matches, against a 4.58 yellow average here.
Sample: Career record, 108 matches across all competitions
Jesús Valenzuela
108 matches this season
league average
Both sides sit under the 5.03-card league average: 4.5 cards per Palmeiras match, 4.2 per LDU match.
Sample: This season, all competitions: 15 Palmeiras matches, 11 LDU matches with card data
| Metric | PalmeirasHome | LDU de QuitoAway |
|---|---|---|
| Cards shown per game | 1.8 | 2.3 |
| Cards in the match, both sides | 4.5 | 4.2 |
| Matches over 3.5 cards | 67% | 55% |
Bold marks the better figure in each row.
What this supports
Full board ↑Total cards
Under 5.5
Price 1.833/5
03Corners
The corner count is the one line in this match pointing upwards. LDU matches have averaged 11.4 corners across 11 competitive games this season and gone over 9.5 in nine of the ten with data. Palmeiras matches sit at 10.0 across 15, over 9.5 in eight. Both numbers sit well clear of the 8.95 league average and its 44% over-9.5 rate.
The mechanism is obvious. Palmeiras take 16.0 shots a game and hold 54% of the ball in weighted season averages; a deep LDU block turns that pressure into blocked shots and set pieces rather than clear chances. Palmeiras' two Libertadores matches averaged 11.0 corners and LDU's 12.0 — the same profile against South American opposition.
LDU matches have averaged 11.4 corners and cleared 9.5 in nine of ten, against an 8.95 league average.
Sample: This season, all competitions: 15 Palmeiras matches, 11 LDU with corner data
| Metric | PalmeirasHome | LDU de QuitoAway |
|---|---|---|
| Corners won per game | 5.3 | 6.0 |
| Corners conceded per game | 4.7 | 5.4 |
| Corners in the match, both sides | 10.0 | 11.4 |
| Matches over 9.5 corners | 53% | 90% |
Bold marks the better figure in each row.
What this supports
Full board ↑Total corners
Over 10
Price 1.853/5
04The numbers that matter
- 27
- home Libertadores matches unbeaten
- Palmeiras have not lost at home in this competition since May 2021: 18 wins and nine draws by mid-May this year.
- 0.92
- LDU goals per game
- Thirteen competitive matches this season, 12 goals, five of them blanks. Both knockout ties with Mirassol finished 1-1 and 0-0.
- 4 of 5
- recent Palmeiras matches goalless at the break
- Only the home win over Santos broke the pattern; Palmeiras have been level at half-time in 67% of 15 matches.
Two caveats on the figures above. LDU's expected-goals numbers come from only the two Libertadores matches that carry them, so they describe those ties rather than a season. And the referee's card rate is a career figure, not a 2026 one.
Part two
Who plays, and how
One suspension reshapes the Palmeiras midfield, while LDU arrive with the eleven that has just won away and no fresh absences.
05Team news
Palmeiras lose their creator to suspension and two forwards to injury; LDU travelled with everyone but a season-long absentee.
PalmeirasHome
Andreas PereiraMF
red card in the round of 16, two-match ban
ResultGoals
SuspendedPaulinhoFW
adductor tendon injury
Goals
OutJhon AriasMF
right thigh knock, expected to make it
GoalsCorners
DoubtfulRamón SosaFW
left thigh injury
Goals
OutJeftéDF
knee surgery, meniscus
Result
Out
LDU de QuitoAway
José QuinteroDF
cruciate ligament rupture, out for the season
Result
Out
Dots = impact on the starting XI (1 squad depth, 3 key starter); tags name the markets the absence moves. Confirmed by club and national reporting on 7 September; LDU flew to São Paulo with a complete squad.
06Expected XI
Andreas Pereira's ban opens a place for Jhon Arias; LDU are expected to keep the eleven that won 3-1 on Saturday.
PalmeirasHome
Abel Ferreira
LDU de QuitoAway
Gustavo Álvarez
Ordered goalkeeper first, then each line left to right. Predicted XIs, not confirmed teamsheets.
07Shape and plan
The Pereira-shaped hole
Andreas Pereira has started almost everything in midfield and is the man who turns Palmeiras' 54% possession into a final pass. Without him the load falls on Maurício between the lines and on Jhon Arias, himself only just back from a thigh knock. Palmeiras managed one goal in their last three matches with Pereira playing; the version without him has to be sharper, not slower.
LDU's block, and what breaks it
LDU have conceded 0.86 per game across their last seven away matches and held Mirassol to 0-0 and 1-1 across the round of 16. Adé and Allala defend the box; Pretell and Cornejo screen it. Palmeiras take 16.0 shots a game in weighted season averages but only 4.86 land on target — 31% accuracy. Volume without penetration is exactly what this LDU shape is built to survive.
Set pieces are the release valve
If open play stalls, corners are the way through: LDU matches average 11.4 and Palmeiras have Gustavo Gómez and Murilo for the second phase. LDU concede 5.4 corners a game, more than they win from open play against stronger sides, and their own 6.0 per game come mostly from the same route.
The second leg is in the room
LDU host the return at altitude in Quito on 16 September, where they have won all three of their home matches in this competition's group phase, 7 scored and 2 conceded. A 0-0 or a 1-0 defeat is a good night for them. That asymmetry, more than any statistic, is why this should be a controlled match.
08Three duels
José Manuel López
Palmeiras · ST
Led the line in the goalless draw at Botafogo and, with Paulinho and Sosa injured, has no natural understudy. He has to win the duel with Adé alone.
Maurício
Palmeiras · AM
Inherits Andreas Pereira's job between the lines. If he cannot find the pocket behind Pretell and Cornejo, Palmeiras' 16.0 shots a game stay outside the box.
Michael Estrada
LDU de Quito · ST
LDU's regular starting forward and their only reliable outlet on the counter. With 0.92 goals per game as a team, everything on the break runs through him.
Gonzalo Valle
LDU de Quito · GK
Missed the 2025 semi-final injured and watched the 4-0 from the stand. LDU have five clean sheets in 13 competitive matches this season.
Part three
The call
Our verdict: how the match most likely goes, the score we would write down, and what would change our mind.
09How it could go
Three ways this match goes
Chance of each, out of 100 — most likely first
- 45%chanceMost likely
The controlled 1-0
Palmeiras keep the ball, LDU absorb and concede 5.4 corners a game. The goal comes after the hour, from a set piece or a scrambled second phase, and Palmeiras carry a slim lead to Quito. It fits their 0.57 conceded at home and LDU's 0.86 on the road.
- 30%chance
Nothing gives
The pattern of the last three Palmeiras matches holds: heavy possession, shots from distance, no breakthrough. LDU have already drawn 1-1 and 0-0 in this competition, and Palmeiras were level at 67% of half-times. A goalless first leg turns Quito into a home final at altitude.
- 25%chance
Palmeiras open it up
Arias plays, the crowd lifts them, and an early goal forces LDU out of shape. Palmeiras beat Santos 3-0 at home after leading 2-0 at the break, and the 4-0 in this fixture last October shows what happens when LDU chase. Two or three goals and the tie is over.
The chances are the desk's judgement, not market prices; together they add up to 100.
Four knockout matches took these two clubs into this round: five goals between them and three draws. Nothing about this first leg says the fifth will be different.
10The verdict
Palmeiras edge it, and the goals stay locked away
Palmeiras are the stronger side and 27 home Libertadores matches without defeat is not an accident. But the version that turns up on Wednesday has scored once in three matches, has lost its main creator to suspension and two forwards to injury, and faces a team that has conceded 0.86 per game away and has a second leg at altitude waiting. LDU do not need to attack. Palmeiras will have the ball, the corners and the shots; whether they have the finish with López alone up front is the whole question. We take a narrow home win and a low total, and we would rather be on under 2.5 than on the handicap.
What would change our mind
- If Jhon Arias is ruled out on the day, soften the Palmeiras win lean and add to the under.
- If the rain arrives before kick-off, the corner count rises and the goals line falls further.
- If Valenzuela books three inside half an hour, abandon the under 5.5 cards lean.
AI-generated analysis for entertainment purposes. Odds are indicative, tied to no bookmaker. No betting advice.
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